A205 Mortlake Rd - segregation needed
Despite the mandatory cyclelanes there are few cyclists who use them, probably due to the high volumes of traffic. The street is wide enough for proper segregation; and is a main route to Kew Riverside school.
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Created by Andrew Woodward // 1 thread
Despite the mandatory cyclelanes there are few cyclists who use them, probably due to the high volumes of traffic. The street is wide enough for proper segregation; and is a main route to Kew Riverside school.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
Cyclists crossing the junction on the road (not the pavement) going north are frequently squeezed by the pinch point created by the central pedestrian crossing refuge at the mouth of the A205 and junction with A316
Created by Andrew Woodward // 1 thread
This stretch of Clifford Ave joins LCN37 to the A316 cycle track and to LCN 33 up to Kew.
However, it is usually very congested, there are often large trucks; and there is no form of protection for cyclists on this stretch of road.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 1 thread
South Worple Way is signposted as part of LCN 37; but the western end of it is blocked off with this obstruction; which leaves only a very narrow gap for bikes to get through. Could you get a cargo bike or a trailer through there?
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
Doing the school run on bikes - with hiviz, helmets and cycling on the pavement. Queens Road, Richmond, northbound. Cyclists feel vulnerable due to high traffic volumes. There is a wide pavement and wide road here; with enough space to create a dedicated cyclepath.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 1 thread
This dad with kids in a trailer clearly doesn't feel safe enough to use the bike lane so he cycles on the pavement. Probably because he's on the way to one of the 7 schools or nurseries near to this route; and the cars are doing 40mph on that nice wide road. This is a regular sight on this route.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
Despite the cycle lanes being mandatory along this stretch the road layout is such that vehicles frequently intrude into the cyclelane - as this bus did.
White paint does not work on this stretch and some other segregation method is needed -eg a kerb; vertical posts or similar.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
The A316 is interrupted at Manor Circus; requiring a dismount to walk around the roundabout before you can continue again East-West.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
Street signage causes unacceptably narrowing of the cyclepath at this point.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 1 thread
I have serious concerns about the safety of this portion of the bike path; arising from its recent re-design. Recently my 10 year old son was in a very close “near-miss” with a car turning off the A316 into Bicester Road; and I believe many more similar incidents are likely occurring. Eventually someone will be seriously hurt or killed on it.
However, the improvement in the track leads cyclists to feel more confident in using it – giving a false sense of security.
In particular:
• The segregated track makes it particularly appealing for inexperienced and more vulnerable cyclists (such as kids).
• This track design leads to an increase in the cyclists speed.
• The smooth/quick nature of the track leads inexperienced cyclists to believe that THEY HAVE RIGHT OF WAY across side roads.
• There are no markings on the roads to tell drivers coming in or out of side roads that cyclists could be on the track crossing their path.
• There is a particular challenge for EASTBOUND cyclists.
To avoid stopping at every side road, when on the track travelling Eastbound (as per red arrow on photo) approaching roads such as Bicester road, the cyclist has to simultaneously
(a) check to their FRONT/LEFT side to see if a car is exiting the side road
(b) check BEHIND them on their REAR/ RIGHT hand side to see if a car is about to swing off the A316 into the side road (usually at speed) - (as per orange arrow on photo).
This is a hard combination to perform – looking 180 degrees opposite directions at the same time. If you are an inexperienced cyclist, on an apparently safe track, it is very likely that you will not realise you have to be this vigilant and not check adequately for cars.
Hence, my boy rode across Bicester road from the east and was very nearly hit by a car turning off the A316.
(Note that travelling from the west is somewhat easier as both the vehicles turning in from the A316 and those turning out from the side roads are in your front field of vision).
My suggestions for improving this situation are:
(1) Clearly mark the bike track across the side roads so cars are aware there are cyclists approaching from the side.
(2) Ideally, give cyclists priority across the side roads; so making cars slow to a halt and making it more intuitive for cyclists.
(3) To facilitate this, would require some stopping space for traffic coming on/off the A316 to after the bike track crossing
At roads such as Bicester road the bike track could be curved to the south by about 2m before crossing the side road – this curve in the track would
(a) naturally slow cyclists down as they approach the side road
(b) would provide vehicles moving onto the A316 a decent gap so they can separate the concerns of first negotiating the bike track then focus on getting on the A316;
(c) for vehicles coming off the A316 the additional space would give them space to stop and give way to cyclists.
Created by Mark A // 1 thread
A dropped kerb at this point would improve the route that people can take to cycle between Bear Flat and the city centre - making it easier to use Calton Gardens to avoid the section of footpath on the alternative via Holloway and St Marks Church.
Created by Andrew Woodward // 0 threads
There's plenty of shops on White Hart Lane but the only bike parking is right at the northern end. There is room for more bike stands near the shops at the southern end opposite Westfields Avenue.
Created by DavidT // 2 threads
The current layout of the pedestrian crossing at the junction of Winchester road and Vermont close forces cyclists out of the cycle lane and into the flow of traffic. This is a risky maneuver and relies on the patience of the car driver behind the cyclist. A possible solution would be to be extend the cycle lane through the chicane, with give way markings so that pedestrians have right of way.
Martin Lucas-Smith // 1 thread
Anglia Ruskin are developing their new Faculty of Health, Social Care and Education here. They are required to undertake amendments to the junction here. Can this be improved for cycling?
Created by Sam Saunders // 1 thread
Busy Ashton Road (a 20 mph road from the A3029) bends eastward into the commercial area of North Street, close to a well-used park. On the bend, immediately adjacent to a park entrance, Frayne Street brings one-way traffic from the north west, and allows cycles to travel in the opposite direction towards Cumberland Basin. Coronation Road has two way traffic on the north east side.
A recently installed calming measure has narrowed the road on the bend, as shown in the picture. The irregular shape of the road that results has made the turn into Coronation Road awkward for cyclists and, as can be seen from the lower half of the picture, some cyclists take ad hoc routes to avoid the complication. Buses and large lorries also use the route into North Street and most vehicles take the bend at about 30 mph, despite the speed restriction.
As a route for cyclists, there could be a continuous segregated lane alongside the park (perhaps shaving a metre from the park itself, crossing Frayne Road with priority and following Coronation Road eastbound. A large number of school children use the route along the park every day but only a very few use a bicycle.
Created by Eric Booth // 2 threads
Prince St bridge is an anarchic pigs ear. I like pigs and fond of a bit of anarchy but it's getting beyond a joke. Of course it will all be sorted out properly in due course but we could live with this for years. Here's a quick fix:
SOUTH
1. Move south vehicle stop line back 10m behind tramlines
2. Remove all bollards unless one or two kept in line with centre of bridge with arrows right for cars
3. Widen cycle lane from bridge to Festival way turn so suitable for 2-way cycling.
4. Put in Give Way painted line at an angle running from enlarged cycle lane to centre line so southbound cyclists alerted to need to filter across traffic.
NORTH
1. Remove all bollards
2. Widen cycle lane for 2 way cycling all the way up to the traffic lights with The Grove.
3. Remove 5 bollards on each side of north bound traffic light along with the two set back
4. Paint cycle lane passing behind light and then back onto carriageway making it nice and clear that it's an option for cyclists when lights red or they can carry on (as most will, no worse than now but at least it will be clear that they can treat these as 'give way')
5. There will need to be 'give way' paint to make clear that pedestrians have right of way on the by-pass.
Yes it's muddled but less so than now and makes the desire lines easier. It's also a cheap paint based fix pending the proper job.
Created by Sam Saunders // 1 thread
Cycling North along Westbury Road (A4018) on a shared-use pathway beside the main carriageway there is a sign to "Westbury Park Shops". It is about 50 yards before the Parry's Lane roundabout and indicates a right turn ahead for cyclists and pedestrians. It has been added to a larger sign that reads "New Road Layout".
In practice, on arrival at the roundabout there is no indication before, on or after the roundabout as to where cyclists should go next. A zebra crossing before the roundabout offers a dismounted route to the other side of the road, but there is no indication of which direction to take thereafter. There are 4 roads to chose from, Westbury Park, Etloe Road, North View and Downs Park West but none of them seem to offer shops. There are two ambiguous cycle lane markings on the entrance to Westbury Park and "NO CYCLING" is painted on one footpath.
The problem, in a nutshell, is one that recurs all over Bristol: if you don't already know the way a first encouraging sign gives expectations that are not followed through. A route that had been indicated as a cycle route (with the cycle symbol) at its origin is left to chance and guesswork. The effect on cycling is to increase uncertainty and unpredictability. Each cyclist is obliged to make guesses about how to use a junction or follow a route. An association of cycling with expert and arcane knowledge is reinforced. Many routes (including this one) could be improved with a few additional signs or road markings and their use by casual or less well-informed cyclists could be encouraged.
Hamlet, Auckland and Lancaster roads are used as a rat run by traffic avoiding jams on the Crystal Palace Triangle. Several schools along here and no real need for through motor traffic to be allowed - there are two "A" roads on parallel routes (Church Road / S Norwood Hill, and Croydon Road) within a short distance.
Use of this road as a rat run also creates extra through traffic on Fox Hill, Sylvan Hill, Southern Avenue and other roads that access it. It's not particularly dangerous by usual London standards (apart from getting beeped by impatient van drivers - no space to overtake along a lot of it) but could be made a lot safer so that the kids at the Harris Academies can cycle to school.
Created by MB // 0 threads
Being able to cycle down this road (westwards) to cross Roehamton Lane into Danebury Avenue would be a much safer option than the current one where cyclists have to spend some scary minutes converting from an 'on the pavement' cycle path that is invisible to pedestrians, onto a shared Toucan crossing & then immediately into 4 lanes of fast, heavy & impatient traffic before turning left into the comparative sanctuary of Danebury Avenue.
Alternativley, after the Toucan crossing, an on-the-pavement cycle path could be continued, along the wide pavement (on the south side of Roehampton Lane), & allow a safe left turn into Danebury Avenue.
Martin Lucas-Smith // 2 threads
Proposed demolition of two existing dwelling houses and construction of 12no.flats including land for parking of vehicles in association with the adjacent commercial use at 184 Histon Road | 186-188 Histon Road Cambridge Cambridgeshire CB4 3JP
[Previously reported by Michael Cahn]
Created by Paul L // 0 threads
longer than Kew Rd and any traffic can be obstructive in narrow roads.
Toucan crossings of A316, Kew Road and Mortlake Rd.
Is rat running a problem ?
Created by Paul L // 0 threads
Riverside path - scenic.
Richmond bridge is NOT quiet.
The path is narrow in places and surface sometimes poor. On a Sunday it can be congested with pedestrians. How to signpost - recommended except when fine ?
Created by Paul L // 0 threads
A highly enjoyable if hilly route.
Teddington High St is busy and a 20mph limit would send a good message.
The two level crossings in Vine Rd cause delays
Barnes centre also needs 20 mph .
Created by Paul L // 0 threads
Links the Twickenham - Hampton Wick route with Hampton (Schools)
Toucan crossing of Waldegrave Rd and cycle-able (but marked cyclists dismount) bridge over the railway. A toucan across Wellington Rd was intended but only a pelican installed.
Burtons Rd is a notorious rat-run - needs permiable closure.
New crossing of Uxbridge Rd barely adaquate.
No Cycling on bridge over Longford River.
Created by Paul L // 0 threads
For most of this we have an ideal greenway. There is a busy section of Hampton Hill high street. Possibly use the crossings at Uxbridge Rd for bi-directional track on East side. A section of Park Rd is one way. No facilities in Hampton Wick.
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Created by M Stanley // 1 thread
Large piece of concrete partially blocking access. If this was put here to stop motorbikes, then it is obviously ineffective due to eroded bank on right hand side.
Reported to Leeds City Council via online reporting system 26/02/2016
Created by Ben Brierton // 1 thread
The new road layout here means that eastbound cyclists travelling straight-on find themselves in the left-turn lane, stopped by a Red light, and blocking traffic turning left into the Park and Ride who have a Green left turn filter.
The road markings seem to expect cyclists in this lane to go straight ahead, even though it's the left turn lane, because it is guided into the onward eastbound cycle lane. Just feels wrong and leaves cyclists vulnerable to the left turning traffic.
There should be a 'redmac' cycle lane between the left turn lane and the right hand lane. The road markings should guide cyclists from this lane into the eastbound cycle lane instead of from the left turn lane.
Created by Hugh McClintock // 1 thread
Comments welcome please on this consultation about barriers on rights of way.
Pedals believes that any kind of barriers should be avoided as far as possible, especially those of the A-frame design. If access controls really are needed they should take the form of bollards (or staggered bollards) rather than barrier.
Message of 22 Feb 2016 from John Lee, Nottm City Council
Morning all
Some of you will recall taking part in its preparation.
We are in the process of reviewing the attached Policy. The policy was in response to complaints about the design of barriers the council have used on rights of way to deal with motorcycles and users safety. Although barriers help deter illegal use some designs were causing problems for disabled citizens, mobility scooters, double buggies and cyclists. When deciding whether a barrier is the best solution for a particular problem/location, the policy has helped provide a consistent approach.
As part of the review do you have any comments on the policy, for example is there anything else the policy should include so the rights of way network is kept free from unnecessary obstructions and is accessible by all? Please forward onto any contacts who may have an interest.
Please could I have your comments by Monday 21st March.
Regards
John Lee
Public Rights of Way
Traffic and Safety
Development and Growth
Nottingham City Council
Loxley House
Station Street
Nottingham
NG2 3NG
Tele: 0115 8765246
Mobile: 07976 794880
www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/rightsofway
Created by jpennycook // 1 thread
Just to the south of the junction with Sullivan Road, there is a low hanging branch at decapitation height. It is hard to see at night.
Created by MB // 1 thread
Access for cyclists, pedestrians with buggies or wheelchairs is poor here. Pavement is not flush to carriageway, barriers effectively block access & there are oftern cars parked too. As a part of the 'London Cycle Network' (74) it is substandard. If the route is intended for cyclists, it should be made accessible to them. Other users (car drivers) should be prevented from blocking it.
In addition, there is a 'cyclists dismount' sign!
Created by Adam Edwards // 0 threads
Stanbroughbury is the new housing area proposed by Gascoyne-Cecil Estates (Hatfield House) in the area north of Hatfield Garden Village. The suggested route above would pass through the housing.
The route would directly link the new housing to Hatfield Station via a cycling and walking route of about a mile. To achieve this requires a new bridge over the A1(M) and Comet Way and makes use of the handy gap in the housing into the Birchwood estate at this point. As the alternatives for cars are a longer way round via Wellfield Road or via Stanborough, this new route would give waling and cycling a time advantage which would therefore incentivise use.
The route assumes a second entrance to Hatfield station at the north end of platforms 2/3 either onto Beaconsfield Road or St Albans Road East. This will be needed anyway as demand at the station increases. Opening this second entrance will also encourage walking to and from the north and west of Hatfield as it will shorten walking times quite considerably. This second entrance should be for walking and cycling only.
Martin Lucas-Smith // 2 threads
Demolition of ancillary buildings and removal of 1930's facade at the grade II listed Cambridge Union Society. Construction of replacement facade, reinstatement and refurbishment of historic features and internal and external access and refurbishment works including enlargement of existing cafe (use class A3) and re-opening of 'footlight's' entertainment space (sui generis). Demolition of squash courts and un-listed 3-5 Round Church Street in the conservation area. Construction of new link building for access and ancillary uses for the Union Society. Construction of adjacent new building with ground floor restaurant (use class A3) with 41 room post-graduate student accommodation above (use class C2) together with basement storage and services.
Cambridge Union Society 9A Bridge Street Cambridge Cambridgeshire CB2 1UB
Application reference : 16/0673/FUL
Also a Listing Building Consent application: 16/0674/LBC Demolition of ancillary buildings and removal of 1930's facade at the grade II listed Cambridge Union Society
Created by Andy Allan // 0 threads
Heading southbound from New Malden along Malden Road, there is a segregated bike path for most of the route between the Fountain Roundabout and the A3. Unfortunately it ends around 100m before the A3 junction, and bikes are forced back onto the busy A2043.
It would be a good idea to link the bike path along the A2043 to paths around the roundabout, to make a joined up route.
Created by T Harris // 1 thread
You may remember that Hounslow Council issued plans for a cycleway between Boston Manor Underground Station and the GSK complex back in 2014. The recent revised plan is for a bidirectional protected cycleway on the western side of Boston Manor Road. It includes plans for separation between the cycleway and bus stops. There are still places where cars can be driven over the cycleway at entrances to Boston Manor Park and car parking bays planned to be located between the cycleway and the properties opposite Manor Vale. We broadly support the plans, but please send in your concerns too. The consultation ends on 3rd June.
Harmston Rise.
Inadequate drainage.
Any other side road treatments failing already? do they need to be laying drainage kerbing?
Ranty Highwayman has a note on them. Given the flooding that is prone on the ring road probably need to be pushing this with KM for the side roads that will be built to get them spec'd up to include the drainage.
Created by Paul Gasson // 1 thread
From the commonplace introduction:
"Waltham Forest is changing and we want you to be part of it. Thanks to a funding pot of £27 million from Transport for London, we’re delivering the Mini-Holland Programme to make our streets fit for everyone to use, whether you walk, cycle, use public transport or drive.
The Highams Park Town Centre scheme area has over 6,500 addresses and includes the area framed by North Circular Road, Hatch Lane, Woodford New Road and other minor roads. We want to make it easier for you to walk and cycle local journeys should you choose to. We also want to improve the look and feel of the area, making it an even more enjoyable place, boosting business and giving residents a sense of pride in their community."
Created by Heather Rainbow // 1 thread
Planning application 15/02303/FUL is to make Long lane open to motor vehicles so that they can reach 10 new houses on Pyotts Hill House.
This will be debated at 6.30pm on Wednesday 10 August at the Civic Offices Basingstoke.
Cycle Basingstoke has already objected because the road along Long lane is only 3metres wide and pedestrians, cyclists, lorries and cars will have to share this space.
There is good access from Lily Mill Chine
Created by jpennycook // 1 thread
There is a petition to signalise Golden Pot junction, near Alton, on the B3349 (The Avenue/Froyle Road/Old Odiham Road junction)
"Hampshire County Council: I would like to start a petition to have traffic lights put at the Golden Pot crossroads.
Petition by Philippa Webster"
Created by jpennycook // 1 thread
Area Estates are proposing to build a retail park on the former Smiths Industries site between Winchester Road and Harrow Way, in Basingstoke. This was formerly owned by Tesco, who failed to build a supermarket there.
No cycling access has been proposed, and the provision for cycle parking is inadequate - insufficient for customers, and none for staff.
Please submit feedback to the developer.
No planning application yet, but previous applications for the site are here: https://planning.basingstoke.gov.uk/online-applications/propertyDetails.do?activeTab=relatedCases&keyVal=H44MKACRLI568
Created by kirbyjames // 1 thread
Comments are invited on Exeter's new east-west shared use route.
In particular suggestions are invited on how it might be improved.
Created by jpennycook // 1 thread
Request for a screening opinion for the erection of a motorway service area
Land At O/S Grid Ref 460946 147950 M3 Basingstoke Hampshire
Basingstoke
Application reference : 16/02767/ENSC
http://pad.basingstoke.gov.uk/DocumentViewer/?DocumentClassCode=DC&Folder1Reference=16/02767/ENSC
http://pad.basingstoke.gov.uk/documents/4753/01/09/91/01099199.PDF
http://pad.basingstoke.gov.uk/documents/4753/01/09/91/01099197.PDF
http://pad.basingstoke.gov.uk/documents/4753/01/10/05/01100568.PDF
Created by John Chamberlain // 1 thread
For the last year Torrington Place and Tavistock Place have had segregated cycle tracks on both sides of the street. This consultation is about making the current trial arrangement permanent. The current lightly segregated tracks would mostly become stepped tracks and there would be other improvements to junctions as well as increased space for pedestrians. There is a lot of local support but also significant opposition, mostly from residents of Judd and other streets where motor traffic volumes have increased. We think this can be corrected by the (separate) proposed changes to Judd Street and at Brunswick Square.
It's important that all cyclists and others in favour respond using the website below. Otherwise we are in danger of losing this flagship facility. You don't have to live in Camden but you do need to provide an address and postcode.
Created by Cycling Dumfries // 0 threads
There is now a nice cycle path that takes you from the river away from Devorgilla bridge, but there is no easy way to go from there to the College Street cycle track or Terregles Street as both Market Square and Howgate Street are one-way going the other way. Adding an 'except cycles' sign and allowing contraflow cycling along Market Square (which is not a fast or busy road), combined with a crossing across Buccleuch St on the east side of the street would provide an alternative route through town when the Whitesands is closed (or the Loreburn Bridge). At the moment, to get across Buccleuch street you have to cross in three cycles of the light and there are railings preventing pedestrian and bike access to College Street. This would also benefit pedestrians.
At the bottom of South Avenue, the road turns into a short cycle track. There is no dropped kerb.
Natalie G // 1 thread
The proposals for this route along Whiston Road include:
Removing some of the existing speed cushions and replacing them with raised carriageway
tables. These speed tables will be raised to footway level to provide a traffic calming feature
to assist in reducing the speed of traffic along Whiston Road, making it a safer environment for
pedestrians, cyclists and drivers.
Please let us have your comments before 17 October 2016 so that we can draft a group response.
thanks
Natalie
Created by Rogerdodge // 1 thread
Kingston Council have opened the consultation on this route, open until 17th November
Created by Rogerdodge // 1 thread
Kingston Council have opened the Consultation on this route, open until 17th November
Created by Rogerdodge // 1 thread
Kingston Council have opened the Consultation on this route, it also includes Ewell Rd - see separate Map. Open until 17th November
Created by Rogerdodge // 1 thread
Kingston Council have opened the Consultation on this route, it also includes Penrhyn Rd & Surbiton Rd. Open until 17th November.