Ashton Vale to Temple Meads Metro Bus excl Centre Loop
Cycling provision totally inadequate in proposals.
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Cycling provision totally inadequate in proposals.
Created by Jon Warbrick // 1 thread
Contractor's safety fencing for some of the work going on adjacent to Addenbrookes has been put up on the adjacent cycle path, presumably because it's easier to to that than put it up in the building site itself. Unfortunately this obstructs about a third of the path.
Whoever did this obviously realised that this was problematic, since they have painted the path side of all the bases yellow. Unfortunately this doesn't help in the dark.
I can't see any obvious contact details for the contractors, apart from 'Tamdown' on an attached 'Danger - Deep Excavation' sign. Anyone any idea how to get this addressed?
Notice is herby given that Southampton city council
proposes to make the following
The City of Southampton(various roads)
(movement restrictions)(amendment no9)order 2013
1. the effect of the order is to remove the contraflow cycle lane on
second avenue between first avenue and the north-westernmost
access to the NXP site, approximately 150metres south-east of allington
road thus reverting this part of second avenue to two way traffic. The
contraflow cycle lane will remain on the part of second avenue between
the north-westernmost access to the NXP site and allington road.
2.Copies of the order, relevant map and statement of reasons for
proposing may be inspected during normal working hours at my enquiry
office. Further information may also be obtained from the Southampton
Highways Partnership (traffic management) on 02380798064
3.Any person wishing to object to the order must write to at the
address given below or email:
Traffic.Orders.legal@southampton.gov.uk stating the grounds for
objection within 21 days of this notice (i.e. by 2 August 2013)
Dated 12 July 2013
Richard Ivory Head Of Legal, HR and Democratic Services,
Created by Sam Saunders // 0 threads
The Brunel Mile is a notional route between Millennium Square and Temple Meads Station. A video (date uncertain) on the Better By Bike website shows the intended journey. http://www.betterbybike.info/video-list/millennium-square-to-bristol-temple-meads-along-brunel-mile
Some of the route shown in the video corresponds with Bristol Cycling Campaign's important orbital freeway: Fo1 Inner Loop Redcliffe Way to Triangle. (see https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=213139683046776952805.0004d820d652973f23c70&msa=0&ll=51.491805,-2.665343&spn=0.025758,0.032959&dg=feature) To enable a network to develop coherently as it grew, Fo1 would be our recommended route.
As it stands (July 2013) there is only one short section of the Brunel Mile that meets a majority of the criteria that would characterise a cycling Freeway, namely the segregated cycle lane across Redcliffe Bridge which fails only on the "continuous" criterion. It seems important that all of it should do, as a priority, given that sections of the Brunel Mile are very heavily used by cyclists and pedestrians, especially at peak times. For many visitors coming by train with cycles or using the Brompton Dock at Temple Meads this will be a first experience of cycling in Bristol. It needs to make sense and to be easy to use first time.
Issues and suggestions, as things stand, are as follows
1. Pero's Bridge already has too much pedestrian and cycle traffic. It is often uncomfortable for pedestrians and for cyclists. Keeping it as part of a major cycle route through the city is unacceptable. Route Fo1 uses Prince Street instead, where a wide segregated cycle lane would be feasible.
2. The Royal Oak Avenue, Queen Square and Bell Avenue sections would benefit from clear segregation of pedestrians and cyclists, along the lines suggested by the de facto segregation that tends to happen at peak times.
3. The pedestrian and cycle crossing at Welsh Back might benefit from an analysis of behaviour at that junction and consideration of standards adopted in other places. Casual observation suggests a great deal of uncertainty among all road users as to what is supposed to happen and who has priority.
4. At the end of Redcliffe Bridge cyclists are faced with uncertainty as to whether to continue along the paved area beside Freshford House or use the pavement alongside Redcliffe Way. Signage at that point (as it is all along the route) is confusing, inconsistent and unspecific.
5. Crossing Redcliffe Street by cycling straight over the zebra crossing and expecting cars to stop seems to be condoned, and practised. This doesn't feel right and matches no standards that I am aware of. A clear decision needs to be made about how cyclists and pedestrians can cross here without arcane knowledge of "Bristol Rules". Many of those using this (as on the other crossings on the Brunel Mile) are visitors to the city on their first mile of city cycling.
6. The following section of Portwall Lane could be made into a fully segregated cycle lane, with a better crossing at Phippen Street. The numbers of pedestrians, cyclists and out-of-office smokers on this section can be very high and leaving the traffic to fend for itself is inimical to a genuine 8-80 environment.
7. At the end of the Portway there is great ambiguity about how to reach Temple Meads on a bike. The Better By Bike video shows the least satisfactory option that ends abruptly on the wrong side of Temple Way with two busy pedestrian crossings and an unsatisfactory cobbled road to negotiate before reaching the front of the station. Most cyclists seem to use one of the more direct routes over light controlled crossings to The Friary, thence to the side entrance of Temple Meads where the presence of the Brompton Docks and the Cycle Hub van give a natural welcome.
8. Development work on the derelict "island" around Portwall Road East should take full account of the existing use of that section as a crossing point for cyclists and pedestrians getting to and from Temple Meads Station.
In conclusion, A cyclist coming off the platforms at Temple Meads should be able to see very clear signs about which exit to use, and which path to use to get to Bristol City Centre. At present there is nothing at all. Once they have made an exit they should be able to see cycling specific signs that are prominent and clear. They should then be able to follow a designated route that is self-evident and waymarked. The current pedestrian signs are elegant and have good maps, but they are no more use to cyclists than they are to motorists.
A cyclist wanting to get to Temple Meads Station from Bristol City Centre should be able to find the Brunel Mile (on Fo1) from wherever they are without too much difficulty, and then follow it confidently all the way to the railway platforms.
Martin Lucas-Smith // 1 thread
Cherry Hinton Road is currently mainly typical 'blue sign on a pavement' provision, despite having the edge-to-edge width in places for proper cycle provision. A longer-term objective should be to upgrade this.
Outside the old, unused entrance to the boatyard there are barriers that needlessly force cyclists to slow right down.
The cycle lane on Billacombe Road is unusable due to car parking in it.
Created by Eric Booth // 1 thread
I need to report a problem with a route in Whitehall. The council made a hoohaa about linking the cycle path to St George Park. They installed a contraflow in Stretford Road, a bike crossing over Whitehall Road and signage between the cycle path and the park. Laudable. I have used this route to take my daughter to Whitehall Primary School on Johnsons Road for the last year. She had her first Bikeability Lesson on Sunday and is now riding to school (aged 6 - v. proud!!). However, where the link goes through a snicket between the Kings Head pub and Packers Field it is being blocked by cars. This is making navigating a blind corner even more dangerous. Links to pictures below.
A lot of money was spent on this link and its being rendered unusable.
Created by Clare Causier // 1 thread
This afternoon the guidedbusway was closed from Cambridge Regional College to Histon. There was a security guard in a car who provided information on the closure and diversion. However, there was no diversion signage for cyclists or pedestrians.
When I returned home I checked cambridgeshire roadworks for further information but drew a blank.
Is anyone aware if works on the busway is covered by any public notification system?
Saturday afternoon is not a bad time for maintenance, but I imagine commuters would appreciate notice of works which affect their journeys.
Created by Chris Lowe // 1 thread
This section of towpath has been reported as having a poor surface. (Not sure how far north of Bournville Station the issue extends)
Using tarmac rather than breedon gravel has been requested, to be harder wearing and retain a good surface longer.
Created by Chris Lowe // 0 threads
Path reported to be poorly surfaced and in need of resurfacing.
Created by DavidTheScientist // 1 thread
While some painted "cycle lane" does exist northbound, there is woefully little provision for cyclists considering the huge number that use this section of road each day, a large number of whom are those who work at the General Hospital and other nearby health centres. Southbound cyclists have no real provision of space at all, save a graduated stopline, where cars turning right often try to pass right-turning cycles on the inside. Dale road itself is extremely narrow by winchester road, with almost no pavement space for pedestrians.
Cyclists heading northbound on Winchester road must beat traffic off the line at Dale road to get to the painted centre of Winchester road. North of the traffic light at The Range, the cycle lane is almost non-existent, placing cyclists between 2 lanes of heavy traffic, and cyclists have to stop and wait in this dangerous area in order to turn right onto Wilton road. Furthermore, the road surface, especially at this part of Winchester road, is currently deplorable.
Created by aSemy // 0 threads
A tree on the side of East side of Whiteladies road (next to HSBC) has a notice stating that the tree will be removed and replanted. The tree is on the very wide pavement right next to the road, and the road is not wide enough for vehicles and cyclists: a pinch point.
There is clearly enough space on Whiteladies road for a segregated cycle lane. It is a popular route used often by heavy traffic. With enough shifting of road lanes there's even enough room for an uphill cycle lane.
Replanting the tree away from the road would remove one small obstacle and show evidence that BCC is looking towards improving cycling in the long run.
Created by Eric Booth // 1 thread
Another pinch point issue being installed on Whiteladfies Rd as part of the St. John’s Primary School Expansion which links the school in Worrall Road to the new site at the old police station at Lower Redland Road. Looks bad at the moment as there's just the buildout but signals will follow.
BCC Engineer states:
"In terms of specific cycle facilities we are making a number of improvement to the area:
Adding a 1.5 metre uphill cycle lane on Whiteladies Road near the Grove Road area (existing signalised crossing is to be removed).
Adding a 1.5m uphill red surfaced cycle lane (without markings) through the crossing on Whiteladies Road near Lower Redland Road.
Adding a continuous contra-flow cycle lane through the 2 one-way sections of Lower Redland Road (which was requested by cyclists in the area).
Created by Hester Wells // 0 threads
Temporary traffic lights for building works between High Cross and Charles Babbage Road.
I have received the following from our building facilities manager as these lights affect access to our building, and two others.
"1. With effect from Monday 22 July there will be 3-way traffic lights positioned between the existing Charles Babbage Road and new CBR. This will last for 1 week. The lights will be installed on Friday ready for operation on Monday. These lights will have an operator to monitor traffic flow during peak periods (8.30am – 9.30am and 4.30pm to 5.30pm). Outside of these times the lights will operate on sensor detection for queued vehicles to avoid unnecessary queuing, and will automatically sequence between the roads when no traffic is present. Unfortunately the lights will not detect and activate for cyclists and cyclists will need to wait for the lights to operate on the normal sequenced rotation.
2. Following the initial works and as work progresses along CBR, the traffic management will become 2 way light operation along the High Cross Access Road the CBR and this is expected to commence from Monday 29 July for a further 2 weeks.
3. During the above the New CBR and Access Road to Schlumberger are being prepared and tarmacked – kerbs are being installed etc. Surfacing is to be complete by 12 August ready to opened for use by all to access via the New CBR after 12th August.
4. Also after 12 August works will commence on finalising the junction at AVEVA/New Data Centre access and this will have 3 way traffic management and is expected to take 3 weeks.
5. Finally the access road into site via High Cross will close from week commence 19 August and this will be for approximately 7 weeks. This closure will be fully diversion signed from Madingley Road and around the site with diversion management (sighs) taking us via JJ Thompson Road and round to AVEVA from there. However there will be a trial closure of the High Cross Road entrance on the Thursday/Friday 15th & 16th August prior to the work starting on 19th, just to ensure all the signage is correct and easily followed. "
I am interpreting this as at least 6 weeks of temporary traffic lights which will not detect people on bikes.
I suspect cycle detection was only mentioned because I had specifically asked this question when the issue of temporary traffic lights first came up.
I have sent a message back to our facilities manager saying that I don't think this is acceptable as:
1) Cycle usage is nearly as high has car usage here in summer
2) I also see people using this as a through-route for Coton
3) We are on a side road off a through-route for buses, so I suspect the lights on their normal sequence will not be at all favourable for a person on a bike trying to get out, as the normal sequence will not want to disrupt bus flow too much.
4) I fear that the complete lack of provision will lead to some people breaking the rules, which could be dangerous.
However, she is merely relaying these details to us and is not responsible for it. She can contact the site project managers about any issues, which I hope she will do.
Any other ideas?
Created by christhebull // 0 threads
Heading westbound along Bridge Road towards the junction with Rownham Hill, one sees a narrow (90 cm wide) cycle lane leading to an ASL (lacking the appropriate markings), however, the main issue with this junction is the time given to cyclists heading across Rownham Hill into Ashton Court Estate. A slow cyclist who passes the stop line just after the signals turn amber will struggle (uphill) to cross towards the gatehouse before traffic coming up Rownham Hill gets a green light. As cyclists will have previously navigated the debacle that exists on both sides of the Suspension Bridge, this is hardly a welcoming introduction to what is actually a very nice estate to ride around.
Created by Andrea // 3 threads
In Museum Street and Upper Brook Street/Northgate Street it is very dangerous to cycle. Both roads are very narrow, have lots of buses pass through and there are contraflow cycle paths. On those you are very close to the buses (both directions) even if you wait on the pavements to let them through because you are worried about accidents. Can cyclepaths go through Elm Street, Tower Street or Tower Rampart instead?
Created by christhebull // 1 thread
South Gloucestershire have released plans of their proposed changes to their section of the A38 Gloucester Road. Several locations will be altered, namely:
Northville Road Roundabout
Filton Roundabout
A38 / Filton Avenue Junction
A38 Patchway Slips
The proposals can be viewed here https://consultations.southglos.gov.uk/consult.ti/A38_Cycle_Safety_2013/consultationHome and the consultation closes on the 29th July.
What is being proposed is, in my mind, inadequate, as the modifications are mostly tinkering with junctions, with cyclists still expected to use the mainline carriageway (which has a 40 mph speed limit north of the Air Balloon). This route forms part of Bristol Cycling Campaign's proposed "cycle freeways" and the proposals are nowhere near adequate for this road to be called such - so make your voice known at consultation!
Created by Ian Jackson // 0 threads
DUPLICATE ISSUE OF
http://www.cyclescape.org/issues/74-20mph-limits-in-cambridge
- PLEASE RESPOND THERE.
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The Cambridge City Council's consultation on 20mph speed limits in North Cambridge closes today.
Here is the URL:
https://www.cambridge.gov.uk/20mph-speed-limit
If you haven't already done this survey, please do so.
(I have said that I agree with all the proposals, and indeed that they don't go far enough.)
Created by David Earl // 1 thread
Cambridgeshire County Council proposes traffic lights on Sawston bypass where NCN11 and the northern link to Sawston meets it. However, the plan is for cyclists to have to cross three separate sets of lights.
Created by Ian Jackson // 1 thread
There are "Cyclists dismount and use footway" signs at some roadworks on Kings Hedges Road SE-bound outside the Post Office near the Golden Hind.
I spoke to a worker who said the sign had been put in by their traffic management team, after getting permission from Cambridgeshire County Council.
I have phoned the County who say one of their traffic management people will phone me back.
I have also made this FOI request:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/roadworks_traffic_management_cor
Created by David Earl // 1 thread
Ida Darwin Hospital, Fulbourn Old Drift, Fulbourn, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, CB21 5EE
Approval is sought for a. A development brief for the Fulbourn and Ida Darwin hospital sites and b. Outline Planning Permission for the redevelopment of the Ida Darwin Hospital site with up to 180 dwellings (C3) including affordable housing, a 70 unit Extra Care facility (C2) with access and associated works, open space and landscaping, following the demolition of existing buildings on site.
Created by ambrosen // 0 threads
Turning right, eastbound from Weston Road to Victoria Park the cycle path (marked as a footpath on the map above, but signed in roundels once in the park) is not marked at all from the road.
A pointer showing the existence of the path would be great. Even better would be a turn refuge from the centre of Weston Road.
Created by ambrosen // 1 thread
For additional commuter access to the Newton Park campus of Bath Spa uni, does anyone have any ideas about upgrading the footpath over the field from route 4, under the railway to the new path on the A4, linking up with the university.
I realise that for westbound commuters, this duplicates the route which took some effort to get made on the A4, and that it needs a new right of way to be made/purchased/recovered from the historic record, but it looks like a good link.
Created by carlystevens1989 // 1 thread
There are a number of varying sized pot holes along the Cumberland Road leading up the traffic lights near the Mud Dock Deli, the side of the road with no cycle markings. They are mainly on the edge of the road, the largest being around 12 inches in diameter and are also in succession of each other. I would estimate around 10-15 pot holes in total.
Cars are often less than forthcoming when you have to move into the middle of the road to avoid them and therefore cyclists often cycle on the path in order to avoid them - although this path is wide enough to accommodate a cyclist it is not a shared path.
It would also be useful if this side of the road had cycle markings like the other side.
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Created by Tammy Hervey // 0 threads
There is a bike rack outside Leopold Square. But it was full when I arrived there at 3pm on Thursday 6 Sept 2012. So I locked my bike to the railings outside the Aagrah Restaurant on Leopold Square. When I came back to it (after a lovely afternoon tea in the Leopold Hotel) someone had locked another bike to it. After frantic asking around everyone I could see in the square (embarrassing!), I found that the manager of Aagrah had done it. He was most unpleasant about it, saying (I believe correctly) that it is private property and that I could not park a bike there. There was no notice anywhere requesting bike users not to do so.
I gather that the issue has been taken up with the management - so if whomever did this on my behalf would like to comment, I'd be grateful.
Created by t1mmyb // 0 threads
This shortcut is technically pedestrians-only, but forms a useful link from the environs of Bath Spa station (Widcombe) to Holloway, a dead-end for motor vehicles and therefore a quiet, if steep, climb to Bear Flat, Wellsway and beyond.
Dropped kerbs, barrier/chicane removal etc. would make this route usable by parents with cycle trailers, people on cargobikes and the like.
It was slated as a piece of work to be done by Bath & NE Somerset, but there's been no news lately.
Created by James Avery // 1 thread
The UHCW NHS Trust has applied for planning permission for a new access roads and multistorey car parks, under a plan drawn up by leading global engineering firm Arup.
Please ask them to go back to the drawing board and come up with something better.
The planning application details are here:
http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=744613
Please state that you OBJECT to the current proposals as they don't give any consideration to encouraging more cycling (or walking).
The trust are open to discussion via twitter (@NHSUHCW), but the council need to be asked to bring this matter to the committee (currently it is just classed as deferred, which means officers decide themselves).
Created by Shaun McDonald // 1 thread
This section of the flagship National Cycle Network Route 1 on entering Ipswich is of particularly poor quality. There are nettles, brambles and other bushes overgrowning the very rough and narrow path. Is this really the quality of cycling that we want to show to Dutch cyclists coming over from the Netherlands who would have expected there to be a tarmaced cycle path that's a couple of metres wide. There is space to here to place a good surface.
Created by James Avery // 0 threads
As freeholders of the site, Tesco have applied for planning permission for two new restaurants between the roundabout shown and the railway tracks / A444 (above the dual carriageway).
Two core issues:
1) This is an extremely dangerous, uncontrolled crossing - traffic leaves the A444 at 50mph, and is still 30 as it reaches the roundabout. As the map shows, there are Belisha crossings both north and south of this roundabout, so why not to the west, where traffic is still fast and undivided?
2) Cycle parking on the rest of the site is still grossly inadequate. 18 cycle parking spaces are proposed with the restaurant - the same number as the rest of the site combined - although these are actually all in one place at the south of the site.
Created by Andy Allan // 0 threads
There's no bike parking outside of the parade of shops at the top end of Leigham Vale. The only options are the railings on the railway side of the road, or the handrail outside the post office.
There's plenty of space outside the front of the shops, and it would be good to have some near the garden centre.
Created by Richard Alderson // 0 threads
Near Cob Kiln Lane commuter route to Urmston Rail Station Cyclists and pedestrians are supposed to use this kissing gate. The dwell space is far too small and very muddy. There is a horse stile as well which is equally muddy - this is a major access route to the Trans-Pennine Trail
The busway cycleway is sometimes flooded in this section.
The County Council need to address this.
Created by cobweb // 1 thread
The installation of one stand in the boundary of M&S facing Market Hill Square.
Martin Lucas-Smith // 0 threads
The Virgin Gym trade entrance is being used by drivers as a shortcut.
Other than two sheffield stands in the train station there is no secure cycle parking available in Buxton. This is discouraging people from travelling to this tourist hotspot by bike.
Created by Jim Chisholm // 1 thread
Proposals are coming forward for the redevelopment of part of the Cambridge University Pres Site as a single location for Cambridge Assessment. Some public engagement will apparently start in November
Created by mike1727 // 0 threads
The Stonecross/Avenue road junction is to be redesigned. It is rounoured there may be a ban on bikes turning right from Stonecross onto Avenue road, which makes bike journeys W-E using Avenue road difficult. It would be better to redesign the junction to allow bikes through since many people will continue to ride/use the pavement as this is a desire line route.
Bermondsey St is being used as a rat run not just along its length but also across at Tanner St. Through traffic should use the A100, Tooley St or Borough High St.
Could be a good mode filter project
Created by mike1727 // 1 thread
Traffic on the redbourn road is often fast and uncomfortable for novice/nervouse riders. The footpath running along Redbourn road sees few walkers and appears suitable for a conversion to a bike route. This is being progresses through the Herts Cycle Forum
Footpath 32 is to be converted to be a bridleway. The footpath runs at the edge of a field parallel to the Wheathampstead road from the Hertswood Forest car park entrance to Nomansland. It will have a garpack surface for cycling/walking and a larger strip of grass for horse riding.
Funding comes largely from a Paths For Communities grant with other contributions from local sources.
Created by mike1727 // 1 thread
The King Harry lane end of the Causeway route is currently a no cycling area, making the route less effective and dangerous since many people will cycle this part of the route regardless.
Action is required by HCC/SADC to plan and install a bridge and change the route to allow the full length to be used.
The route through Verulamium Park towards the museum was built to substandard width. There is a considerable risk that this will cause conflict between walkers and cyclists.
Route widening is not due until the Green Ring is built in 2015.
STACC will campaign for widening of the route to begin as as soon as possible since we see no need to delay waiting for the Green Ring.
Resurfacing of the Alban Way begins in September 2013- this project draws upon Green Ring funding so why can't Green Ring funding be deployed now to widen the Ver Park route?
Created by Chris Peck // 1 thread
Upgrading the narrow footpath into a wider route usable by cyclists has been a long term priority for the Godalming Cycle Campaign. This route is a key link for pedestrians and cyclists between Farncombe/Binscombe and Godalming.
This year the Waverley Local Committee has dedicated funds to construct the path, which will run over land currently owned by Jewsons.
Created by David Earl // 2 threads
11 flats replacing existing building
Created by Jose Ferraro // 0 threads
Coombe Lane West heading towards Raynes Park: There is a long downhill slope which has new potholes appearing frequently which after a long while are filled with blobs of tarmac creating equally dangerous lumps. Grit fallen from HGVs and parked cars narrowing the lane make this a very risky road to cycle along at speed. A cyclist needs to slow down to be prepared to manoeuvre these hazards which puts them into conflict with motorised traffic behind them who wish to pass but lack the room. This is especially true when cycling uphill over the flyover (in either direction).
There is a short piece of cycle lane only at the base of the hill which does not continue over the flyover and leaves slower cyclists to mix in with the much faster flow of motorised traffic.
The result is frequent close passes unless you cycle in a primary position which invites further conflict (tailgating and intimidation) from impatient motorists.
Created by Robin Heydon // 3 threads
There is a need for a link between the A14 Histon interchange with Ring Fort Path in Orchard Park.
Created by Jon Warbrick // 1 thread
The link from Barton Road to the Lammas Land car park (and the car park itself) have been closed to all use by the County Council for some development work. This is a buisy cycle route, and no effort has been put into providing a diversion. Currently most people are cycling across the grass behind the hedge beside the road (though how long this will remain possible if it rains is unclear); an alternative is to use other paths across Lammas Land, but they are narrow, not actually marked for cycling, and it's further.
According to a notice at the junction with Barton Road this work will continue to the start of December. There was and is no warning when approaching from east of the river.
Created by David Earl // 1 thread
It is intimidating to use this roundabout because of the high shrubbery in the middle. It is supposed to slow traffic down but my subjective feeling is that it doesn't
The link is scheduled to be closed for water main installation for six weeks from 30 September.
Nearest alternative ways to cross the railway line are Sandpit Lane (busy road with splitter islands!) or bridge link to York Road (nice and quiet but steps to bridge)